#12256: "ELO calculation: Joint placements results. "
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Detil Deskripsi
• Mohon salin/tempel pesan error yang Anda lihat di layar, jika ada.
For games like Lewis & Clark and Not Alone where joint placements are common. ELO calculation can take away ELO from a winning players, or ELO points can be awarded to a losing player.• Mohon jelaskan apa yang ingin Anda lakukan, apa yang kemudian Anda lakukan, dan apa yang terjadi
• Apa browser yang Anda gunakan?
Google Chrome v73
• Harap salin/tempel teks yang ditampilkan dalam bahasa Inggris alih-alih bahasa anda. Jika Anda memiliki screenshot bug ini (disarankan), Anda dapat menggunakan Imgur.com untuk menguploadnya dan memberi tautannya di sini.
For games like Lewis & Clark and Not Alone where joint placements are common. ELO calculation can take away ELO from a winning players, or ELO points can be awarded to a losing player.• apakah teks ini tersedia dalam translation system? jika iya, itu bisa diartikan lebih dari 24 jam
• Apa browser yang Anda gunakan?
Google Chrome v73
• Tolong jelaskan saran Anda secara tepat dan ringkas sehingga semudah mungkin untuk memahami apa yang Anda maksud.
For games like Lewis & Clark and Not Alone where joint placements are common. ELO calculation can take away ELO from a winning players, or ELO points can be awarded to a losing player.• Apa browser yang Anda gunakan?
Google Chrome v73
• Apa yang tampil di layar ketika Anda tidak dapat berjalan (Layar kosong? Hanya tampil sebagian antar-muka? Pesan error?)
For games like Lewis & Clark and Not Alone where joint placements are common. ELO calculation can take away ELO from a winning players, or ELO points can be awarded to a losing player.• Apa browser yang Anda gunakan?
Google Chrome v73
• Bagian mana dari peraturan yang tidak diterapkan dengan tepat oleh BGA
For games like Lewis & Clark and Not Alone where joint placements are common. ELO calculation can take away ELO from a winning players, or ELO points can be awarded to a losing player.• Apakah kesalahan peraturan dapat dilihat dari ulangan permainan? Jika ya, pada langkah ke berapa?
• Apa browser yang Anda gunakan?
Google Chrome v73
• Aksi permainan apa yang ingin Anda lakukan?
For games like Lewis & Clark and Not Alone where joint placements are common. ELO calculation can take away ELO from a winning players, or ELO points can be awarded to a losing player.• Apa yang Anda coba lakukan untuk memunculkan aksi permainan ini?
• Apa yang terjadi ketika Anda melakukannya (pesan error, pesan status permainan, ...)?
• Apa browser yang Anda gunakan?
Google Chrome v73
• Pada langkah ke berapa masalah tersebut muncul (apa petunjuk permainan saat itu)?
For games like Lewis & Clark and Not Alone where joint placements are common. ELO calculation can take away ELO from a winning players, or ELO points can be awarded to a losing player.• Apa yang terjadi ketika Anda mencoba untuk melakukan aksi permainan (pesan error, pesan status permainan, ...)?
• Apa browser yang Anda gunakan?
Google Chrome v73
• Mohon jelaskan masalah tampilannya. Jika Anda memiliki screenshot bug ini (disarankan), Anda dapat menggunakan Imgur.com untuk menguploadnya dan memberi tautannya di sini.
For games like Lewis & Clark and Not Alone where joint placements are common. ELO calculation can take away ELO from a winning players, or ELO points can be awarded to a losing player.• Apa browser yang Anda gunakan?
Google Chrome v73
• Harap salin/tempel teks yang ditampilkan dalam bahasa Inggris alih-alih bahasa anda. Jika Anda memiliki screenshot bug ini (disarankan), Anda dapat menggunakan Imgur.com untuk menguploadnya dan memberi tautannya di sini.
For games like Lewis & Clark and Not Alone where joint placements are common. ELO calculation can take away ELO from a winning players, or ELO points can be awarded to a losing player.• apakah teks ini tersedia dalam translation system? jika iya, itu bisa diartikan lebih dari 24 jam
• Apa browser yang Anda gunakan?
Google Chrome v73
• Tolong jelaskan saran Anda secara tepat dan ringkas sehingga semudah mungkin untuk memahami apa yang Anda maksud.
For games like Lewis & Clark and Not Alone where joint placements are common. ELO calculation can take away ELO from a winning players, or ELO points can be awarded to a losing player.• Apa browser yang Anda gunakan?
Google Chrome v73
Laporkan riwayat
the same is true for Lewis & Clark where every loser comes joint 2nd.
Basically, independent of the game outcome, you have a tie with all players in human team, and your score will be adjusted on a value based on ELO difference.
If you have players with higher ELO (and probability of victory is higher) you get a boost to your ELO, if you have players with lower ELO (and probability of victory is lower) you get a drop of your ELO.
This is totally weird.
imgur.com/Nj1pldz
The bug is that some ELO calculations occur in the absence of any competition between players. It occurs mainly in 2 typical cases :
1) games ending normally, but for games with only one winner, all other players being losers. If the losers cannot be ranked, due to lack of score, you cannot pretend there were competitions between losers, and that these players finished in a tie. Only ELO calculations between the winner and each loser are justified, the other ones are inappropriate.
2) games interrupted due to the departure of a player. It is in a way the opposite of the previous situation: the result is one loser, all other players are winners, and winners are not ranked, following the rules of this website. As in the previous case, only ELO calculations between the loser and each winner are justified, the other ones are inappropriate.
Hello everyone,
We finally found the good way to implement this.
It concerns only games where the winners win as a team, and losers lose as a team. These games are easy to spot: they are the one where the "1st / 2nd / 3rd" are replaced by "Winners / Losers" in the table results. Examples: Werewolves, Not alone, Coup city state.
For these games, you cannot win ELO if you are a "loser", and you cannot lose ELO if you are a "winner".
Thanks for suggesting this.
There is no reason I (RicardoRix) should gain ELO:
and also Savilov shouldn't be losing ELO to anyone other than Jai:
boardgamearena.com/table?table=60814597
Tambahkan hal lain di laporan ini
- ID meja / nomor langkah lainnya
- Apakah F5 menyelesaikan masalah?
- Apakah masalah tersebut telah muncul beberapa kali? Setiap kali? Tidak tentu?
- Jika Anda memiliki screenshot bug ini (disarankan), Anda dapat menggunakan Imgur.com untuk menguploadnya dan memberi tautannya di sini.