#127847: "Simultaneous Actions"
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Detil Deskripsi
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• Mohon salin/tempel pesan error yang Anda lihat di layar, jika ada.
As Actions are simultaneous, I shouldn't be able to see what action has been made by other players who have already validated their action before I did mine
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• Mohon jelaskan apa yang ingin Anda lakukan, apa yang kemudian Anda lakukan, dan apa yang terjadi
If I read "Lumberjack2022 places projects Tools and Tribe on left side, Writing and Masonry on right side", I can change my mind before placing my projects as I got these informations.
• Apa browser yang Anda gunakan?
Google Chrome v126
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• Harap salin/tempel teks yang ditampilkan dalam bahasa Inggris alih-alih bahasa anda. Jika Anda memiliki screenshot bug ini (disarankan), Anda dapat menggunakan Imgur.com untuk menguploadnya dan memberi tautannya di sini.
As Actions are simultaneous, I shouldn't be able to see what action has been made by other players who have already validated their action before I did mine
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• apakah teks ini tersedia dalam translation system? jika iya, itu bisa diartikan lebih dari 24 jam
If I read "Lumberjack2022 places projects Tools and Tribe on left side, Writing and Masonry on right side", I can change my mind before placing my projects as I got these informations.
• Apa browser yang Anda gunakan?
Google Chrome v126
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• Tolong jelaskan saran Anda secara tepat dan ringkas sehingga semudah mungkin untuk memahami apa yang Anda maksud.
As Actions are simultaneous, I shouldn't be able to see what action has been made by other players who have already validated their action before I did mine
• Apa browser yang Anda gunakan?
Google Chrome v126
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• Apa yang tampil di layar ketika Anda tidak dapat berjalan (Layar kosong? Hanya tampil sebagian antar-muka? Pesan error?)
As Actions are simultaneous, I shouldn't be able to see what action has been made by other players who have already validated their action before I did mine
• Apa browser yang Anda gunakan?
Google Chrome v126
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• Bagian mana dari peraturan yang tidak diterapkan dengan tepat oleh BGA
As Actions are simultaneous, I shouldn't be able to see what action has been made by other players who have already validated their action before I did mine
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• Apakah kesalahan peraturan dapat dilihat dari ulangan permainan? Jika ya, pada langkah ke berapa?
If I read "Lumberjack2022 places projects Tools and Tribe on left side, Writing and Masonry on right side", I can change my mind before placing my projects as I got these informations.
• Apa browser yang Anda gunakan?
Google Chrome v126
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• Aksi permainan apa yang ingin Anda lakukan?
As Actions are simultaneous, I shouldn't be able to see what action has been made by other players who have already validated their action before I did mine
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• Apa yang Anda coba lakukan untuk memunculkan aksi permainan ini?
If I read "Lumberjack2022 places projects Tools and Tribe on left side, Writing and Masonry on right side", I can change my mind before placing my projects as I got these informations.
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• Apa yang terjadi ketika Anda melakukannya (pesan error, pesan status permainan, ...)?
• Apa browser yang Anda gunakan?
Google Chrome v126
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• Pada langkah ke berapa masalah tersebut muncul (apa petunjuk permainan saat itu)?
As Actions are simultaneous, I shouldn't be able to see what action has been made by other players who have already validated their action before I did mine
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• Apa yang terjadi ketika Anda mencoba untuk melakukan aksi permainan (pesan error, pesan status permainan, ...)?
If I read "Lumberjack2022 places projects Tools and Tribe on left side, Writing and Masonry on right side", I can change my mind before placing my projects as I got these informations.
• Apa browser yang Anda gunakan?
Google Chrome v126
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• Mohon jelaskan masalah tampilannya. Jika Anda memiliki screenshot bug ini (disarankan), Anda dapat menggunakan Imgur.com untuk menguploadnya dan memberi tautannya di sini.
As Actions are simultaneous, I shouldn't be able to see what action has been made by other players who have already validated their action before I did mine
• Apa browser yang Anda gunakan?
Google Chrome v126
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• Harap salin/tempel teks yang ditampilkan dalam bahasa Inggris alih-alih bahasa anda. Jika Anda memiliki screenshot bug ini (disarankan), Anda dapat menggunakan Imgur.com untuk menguploadnya dan memberi tautannya di sini.
As Actions are simultaneous, I shouldn't be able to see what action has been made by other players who have already validated their action before I did mine
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• apakah teks ini tersedia dalam translation system? jika iya, itu bisa diartikan lebih dari 24 jam
If I read "Lumberjack2022 places projects Tools and Tribe on left side, Writing and Masonry on right side", I can change my mind before placing my projects as I got these informations.
• Apa browser yang Anda gunakan?
Google Chrome v126
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• Tolong jelaskan saran Anda secara tepat dan ringkas sehingga semudah mungkin untuk memahami apa yang Anda maksud.
As Actions are simultaneous, I shouldn't be able to see what action has been made by other players who have already validated their action before I did mine
• Apa browser yang Anda gunakan?
Google Chrome v126
Laporkan riwayat
This is mostly critical for phase A and E, but could apply to all phases to avoid edge cases (mostly related to trying to get first place in military power)
imgur.com/YespSae
This is round 9 and in the screenshot, I can see what my opponent has chosen for his techs before I had to choose mine. As a result, I can estimate what his military strength will be and tailor mine accordingly. (I can increase my military but that costs me points in other areas so I want to do it only if gets me the crucial military points needed for bigger gain).
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My take on this:
The example shows that waiting for the other players to play is a serious advantage in some situations and this can be really detrimental to fairness and or speed of play, especially in turn-based mode.
I know that it is likely very difficult to change at this stage but it would be very beneficial to do so.
On the other hand, we should see what tech cards everyone has when they are not (seen as) placed.
The best, IMO, for phase A would be as follow:
- Display which techs are owned by everyone but not where they are placed
- Once a player has placed their techs, let them change their mind as long as the game is still waiting for someone (it's annoying to realize you made a mistake or a sub-optimal play but be unable to change while waiting potentially for 2 days for someone else to play...)
- Once everyone is done, reveal where everyone has placed their techs.
Many games with simultaneous turns do function like this.
I also think this is really the way the game is intended to be played IRL so this might actually be seen as a bug even though there is no explicit rule about peeking in the rulebook
Forum discussion:
boardgamearena.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=38358
This bug appears in _every_ game. The higher the ELO of players, the more critical it becomes.
Tambahkan hal lain di laporan ini
- ID meja / nomor langkah lainnya
- Apakah F5 menyelesaikan masalah?
- Apakah masalah tersebut telah muncul beberapa kali? Setiap kali? Tidak tentu?
- Jika Anda memiliki screenshot bug ini (disarankan), Anda dapat menggunakan Imgur.com untuk menguploadnya dan memberi tautannya di sini.
