#157232: "Use 9 One-Off effect against point cards"
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Detil Deskripsi
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• Mohon salin/tempel pesan error yang Anda lihat di layar, jika ada.
Tried to use a 9, but the ability was grayed out. It said move effect to top of pile. It should move any card to the top of the deck regardless of what it is.
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• Mohon jelaskan apa yang ingin Anda lakukan, apa yang kemudian Anda lakukan, dan apa yang terjadi
Could not use 9 ability.
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Safari v18.3
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• Harap salin/tempel teks yang ditampilkan dalam bahasa Inggris alih-alih bahasa anda. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use a picture hosting service of your choice (snipboard.io for example) to upload it and copy/paste the link here. apakah teks ini tersedia dalam translation system? jika iya, itu bisa diartikan lebih dari 24 jam
Tried to use a 9, but the ability was grayed out. It said move effect to top of pile. It should move any card to the top of the deck regardless of what it is.
• Apa browser yang Anda gunakan?
Safari v18.3
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• Tolong jelaskan saran Anda secara tepat dan ringkas sehingga semudah mungkin untuk memahami apa yang Anda maksud.
Tried to use a 9, but the ability was grayed out. It said move effect to top of pile. It should move any card to the top of the deck regardless of what it is.
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Safari v18.3
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• Apa yang tampil di layar ketika Anda tidak dapat berjalan (Layar kosong? Hanya tampil sebagian antar-muka? Pesan error?)
Tried to use a 9, but the ability was grayed out. It said move effect to top of pile. It should move any card to the top of the deck regardless of what it is.
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Safari v18.3
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• Bagian mana dari peraturan yang tidak diterapkan dengan tepat oleh BGA
Tried to use a 9, but the ability was grayed out. It said move effect to top of pile. It should move any card to the top of the deck regardless of what it is.
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• Apakah kesalahan peraturan dapat dilihat dari ulangan permainan? Jika ya, pada langkah ke berapa?
Could not use 9 ability.
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Safari v18.3
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• Aksi permainan apa yang ingin Anda lakukan?
Tried to use a 9, but the ability was grayed out. It said move effect to top of pile. It should move any card to the top of the deck regardless of what it is.
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• Apa yang Anda coba lakukan untuk memunculkan aksi permainan ini?
Could not use 9 ability.
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• Apa yang terjadi ketika Anda melakukannya (pesan error, pesan status permainan, ...)?
• Apa browser yang Anda gunakan?
Safari v18.3
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• Pada langkah ke berapa masalah tersebut muncul (apa petunjuk permainan saat itu)?
Tried to use a 9, but the ability was grayed out. It said move effect to top of pile. It should move any card to the top of the deck regardless of what it is.
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• Apa yang terjadi ketika Anda mencoba untuk melakukan aksi permainan (pesan error, pesan status permainan, ...)?
Could not use 9 ability.
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Safari v18.3
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• Mohon jelaskan masalah tampilannya. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use a picture hosting service of your choice (snipboard.io for example) to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
Tried to use a 9, but the ability was grayed out. It said move effect to top of pile. It should move any card to the top of the deck regardless of what it is.
• Apa browser yang Anda gunakan?
Safari v18.3
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• Harap salin/tempel teks yang ditampilkan dalam bahasa Inggris alih-alih bahasa anda. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use a picture hosting service of your choice (snipboard.io for example) to upload it and copy/paste the link here. apakah teks ini tersedia dalam translation system? jika iya, itu bisa diartikan lebih dari 24 jam
Tried to use a 9, but the ability was grayed out. It said move effect to top of pile. It should move any card to the top of the deck regardless of what it is.
• Apa browser yang Anda gunakan?
Safari v18.3
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• Tolong jelaskan saran Anda secara tepat dan ringkas sehingga semudah mungkin untuk memahami apa yang Anda maksud.
Tried to use a 9, but the ability was grayed out. It said move effect to top of pile. It should move any card to the top of the deck regardless of what it is.
• Apa browser yang Anda gunakan?
Safari v18.3
Laporkan riwayat
www.pagat.com/combat/cuttle.html
The 9 should only be able to target active Permanent Effects on the table (even with the Deck Nines alternative rule). The game appears to be acting correctly in this case.
Since the balanced rules are inspired by the cuttle.cards variant, I'm okay making this change, but I would like to make sure it would be good for the game.
Most of the changes cuttle.cards made from the base rules are clarified in a discussion on Discord or a Reddit thread, but I cannot find any reference to this difference.
I basically want to make sure it wasn't an accident that just continued to be propagated.
As noted in the "variations" section of the pagat page, this effect, as written is almost **entirely** useles, as the opponent can simply play the returned card on their next turn, at which poitn we are in the exact same situation with the sole change of the person who played the nine no longer having the nine in their hand
This means that in the exact wording on pagat, the only time where playing a 9 for its effect would matter at all is a time where it immediately wins you the game (because you targeted a jack), and the only time that this would be any more beneficial than simply playing the 9 for points is when the player with the 9 has exactly 11 points and their opponent has previously jacked a 10
That's an interesting scenario but it clearly doesn't succeed at delivering an effect that captures the feeling of "sending things back" while being paractiaclly useful
cuttle.cards actually predates the update to the "Variations" section where the suggestion for forcing opponents to wait an additional turn was added to the pagat page (only under variations)
When I was first learning the game with my sister back around 2013, it was quickly clear that the 9's effect as written wasn't useful. We aimed to make a minimal change to make the effect usable, while preserving its feel. That's why we landed on the same idea you now see in the pagat page: requiring the opponent to wait an additional turn to play the returned card
The specific question here is whether or not the 9 One-Off should be used only on Permanent Effects, or if it should be useable against point cards as well.
It should be immediately active in all games, just refresh the page if necessary.
"9 did not let me use ability"
changed to
"Use 9 One-Off effect against point cards"
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- Apakah F5 menyelesaikan masalah?
- Apakah masalah tersebut telah muncul beberapa kali? Setiap kali? Tidak tentu?
- If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use a picture hosting service of your choice (snipboard.io for example) to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
