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#38151: "Pre-roll dice for next turn"

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5 Apr 2021 21:08 • dmk11 • Saran ini belum dianalisis oleh pengembang:

Once a dice is "used up", you put it on the top right spot of your player board as usual, but rather than showing your old dice, show the upcoming roll. For other players, top right corner of opponent's dice will be blank/not displayed.

I know it's different than the real-life implementation where we roll at the same time, but I think that's to prevent opponents taking a look of the upcoming dice, but in an online implementation, you can hide this information. Purist might hate this, so perhaps make it an option.

This way, each player has the same amount of time (-ish) to plan their next turn.

8 Apr 2021 08:26 • WiAiC • Saran ini belum dianalisis oleh pengembang:

But I think this is slightly against the game rules/idea.

According to the game order, all players roll dice at the beginning of each round, and it's explicitly stated in the rule book, "Rolling all dice simultaneously allows players to plan their turn", pg 4, and I think "plan their turn" is indicating to players in latter turn order.

Why? I guess it's because being first player already has the advantage of taking "better tiles", so it's reasonable to have shorter thinking time... ?

So I think this suggestion is not just different from real-life implementation, it's also different from what the rules stated. ;)

11 Apr 2021 15:16 • veldom • Saran ini belum dianalisis oleh pengembang:

I wouldn't like this. Your opponents that are still playing their turns, could know what you can or cannot do next turn.

11 Apr 2021 19:36 • dmk11 • Saran ini belum dianalisis oleh pengembang:

@veldom, they won't be able to see what your next die are until it's the beginning of the next round.

@WiAiC, yes, I know it's not in the game rules which I believe is written because if you roll right after your turn, people can see what your die are, but since this is online, the program can hide that from your opponents until it's the actual beginning of next round.

24 Apr 2021 19:12 • Masky • Saran ini belum dianalisis oleh pengembang:

I don't see the point of proposing it when it is not in the basic rule. It changes the game unnecessarily.

27 Apr 2021 15:18 • mikalpls • Saran ini belum dianalisis oleh pengembang:

Agreed, it's not in the rules.

28 Apr 2021 14:05 • Brainchild • Saran ini belum dianalisis oleh pengembang:

I agree this isn't in the rules and shouldn't be implemented.

10 May 2021 00:29 • DexterHugo • Saran ini belum dianalisis oleh pengembang:

Not a fan of this either, part of making decisions also plays into knowing how the other players finished their turns and what dice they rolled before you make decisions. This should be a very low priority if implemented and optional to turn it off.

19 Jul 2021 09:32 • Petr Sebastian • Saran ini belum dianalisis oleh pengembang:

Makes total sense from the point of speeding up the game flow not just for the first player. Otherwise, people are unnecessary waiting because one cannot analyze the situation in advance. Making it an option would be nice. (I would say it's similar to taking Carcassonne tile in advance before it's your turn.)

22 Aug 2021 15:08 • Frooty_Bazooty • Saran ini belum dianalisis oleh pengembang:

I completely agree with the original poster. There is absolutely no reason why a player should not be able to see their upcoming dice so that they can speed up planning their turn. It does not negatively affect the other players whatsoever, as the player has completed their turn and is powerless to do anything else.

In the majority of games that I play, the first play is always timed out because they have to starting planning their entire turn from scratch once the last player has finished. It's a total waste of time, and there is no reason to not want this speed up mechanism other than rigid, pedantic purism.

WiAiC - no mechanism has been changed, all players can still see your turn when it starts
veldom - opponents dice can be shown at the start of the turn, as the OP already mentioned.
Masky - to make the game quicker for the earlier players, as already stated.
mikalpls - so? those rules are not for online play
Brainchild - again, thats not an actual reason, other than just mindless purism.
DexterHugo - another incorrect criticism - you can still see your opponents dice at the start of the turn.

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