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#47375: "Play and use "Adoptive Parents" after getting offspring in the same round"

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Agricola #197576112

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Antar-muka permainan menghalangi saya untuk melakukan aksi permainan yang seharusnya diperbolehkan oleh peraturan permainan

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29 Aug 2021 10:26 • nuip • Bug belum direka-ulang oleh pihak pengembang:

F5 didn't solve it.

I think the implementation is based on the old card description though BGA uses the new one.
ref: Card description on BGA
> For 1 <FOOD>, you can take an action with offspring in the same round you get it. If you do, the offspring does not count as "newborn".
ref: The difference between the old description and the new description.
boardgamegeek.com/thread/2247359/article/32597696

29 Aug 2021 10:54 • nuip • Bug belum direka-ulang oleh pihak pengembang:

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29 Aug 2021 21:59 • ShiningMasamune • Bug belum direka-ulang oleh pihak pengembang:

Looks like the question to pay 1 food should be at the end the round, not when Family Growth occurs. Make sure this works if playing Family Growth more than once in the same round.

31 Aug 2021 21:08 • nuip • Bug belum direka-ulang oleh pihak pengembang:

Yeah, the question should be at the end of his/her last turn.

31 Aug 2021 23:15 • ShiningMasamune • Bug belum direka-ulang oleh pihak pengembang:

No, it needs to be at the end of the round, not the end of the player's last turn. It's possible that I might not have any food at the end of my last turn, but an opponent with more meeples might do something afterward that grants me food (eg, taking cows when I have Milk Jug)

1 Sep 2021 21:55 • nuip • Bug belum direka-ulang oleh pihak pengembang:

Hmm, I see... I'm not sure if it's ok to pay 1 food in some other player's turn.
But if it's ok, there should be more options.

For example, let's say
* Alice and Bob are playing the game.
* Alice is the start player.
* Alice has 2 workers.
* Bob has 5 workers.
Then the turn will be: A -> B -> A -> B -> B -> B -> B.

If Alice has played "Adoptive Parents" and get offspring in this round, there will be 4 cases depends on when Alice pays 1 food:
* A -> B -> A -> B -> A -> B -> B -> B
* A -> B -> A -> B -> B -> A -> B -> B
* A -> B -> A -> B -> B -> B -> A -> B
* A -> B -> A -> B -> B -> B -> B -> A
In other words, Alice can interrupt Bob anytime.

2 Sep 2021 01:13 • ShiningMasamune • Bug belum direka-ulang oleh pihak pengembang:

Oh, neat, that's true! So if I have AP and a newborn, the question needs to be asked every time *would* be my turn if I had a worker left.

5 Sep 2021 19:50 • nuip • Bug belum direka-ulang oleh pihak pengembang:

I just noticed that we also need to care Lasso, which is reported here: boardgamearena.com/bug?id=46263&vote
This is so difficult...

15 Sep 2021 08:28 • virtual • Bug belum direka-ulang oleh pihak pengembang:

This happened also at my table: 201641284 at the end of round 7.

16 Sep 2021 11:02 • Tisaac • Bug telah diperbaiki:

I asked publisher and he confirmed that you can only use the adoptive parent "during your turn".
Which means you can't interrupt the other players at anytime.

Quote:
"There’s no skipping turns in Agricola. If you have no workers left, you’re out of that round. So, the order in your example is strictly: AB AB A? BBB. Alice must pay the food, if she wants to use Adoptive Parents, at any time before the question mark, so the game should prompt her at her theoretical third turn at the latest and when she declines that, she’s out for that round."

This should now be fixed and worked as intended.

16 Sep 2021 17:50 • nuip • Bug telah diperbaiki:

Great! Thank you!

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