#101617: "ELO rates of unrelated players may decrease when someone exits the game"
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Detil Deskripsi
• Mohon salin/tempel pesan error yang Anda lihat di layar, jika ada.
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As in the game above, if there is a difference in ELO rates between players, the rate of an unrelated player will decrease when someone exits the game.
This is clearly unfair and should be corrected.
Due to this specification, players with higher rates will not want to match with players with lower rates.
It reduces the chances of players playing each other.• Mohon jelaskan apa yang ingin Anda lakukan, apa yang kemudian Anda lakukan, dan apa yang terjadi
• Apa browser yang Anda gunakan?
Google Chrome v117
• Harap salin/tempel teks yang ditampilkan dalam bahasa Inggris alih-alih bahasa anda. Jika Anda memiliki screenshot bug ini (disarankan), Anda dapat menggunakan Imgur.com untuk menguploadnya dan memberi tautannya di sini.
boardgamearena.com/table?table=429152889
As in the game above, if there is a difference in ELO rates between players, the rate of an unrelated player will decrease when someone exits the game.
This is clearly unfair and should be corrected.
Due to this specification, players with higher rates will not want to match with players with lower rates.
It reduces the chances of players playing each other.• apakah teks ini tersedia dalam translation system? jika iya, itu bisa diartikan lebih dari 24 jam
• Apa browser yang Anda gunakan?
Google Chrome v117
• Tolong jelaskan saran Anda secara tepat dan ringkas sehingga semudah mungkin untuk memahami apa yang Anda maksud.
boardgamearena.com/table?table=429152889
As in the game above, if there is a difference in ELO rates between players, the rate of an unrelated player will decrease when someone exits the game.
This is clearly unfair and should be corrected.
Due to this specification, players with higher rates will not want to match with players with lower rates.
It reduces the chances of players playing each other.• Apa browser yang Anda gunakan?
Google Chrome v117
• Apa yang tampil di layar ketika Anda tidak dapat berjalan (Layar kosong? Hanya tampil sebagian antar-muka? Pesan error?)
boardgamearena.com/table?table=429152889
As in the game above, if there is a difference in ELO rates between players, the rate of an unrelated player will decrease when someone exits the game.
This is clearly unfair and should be corrected.
Due to this specification, players with higher rates will not want to match with players with lower rates.
It reduces the chances of players playing each other.• Apa browser yang Anda gunakan?
Google Chrome v117
• Bagian mana dari peraturan yang tidak diterapkan dengan tepat oleh BGA
boardgamearena.com/table?table=429152889
As in the game above, if there is a difference in ELO rates between players, the rate of an unrelated player will decrease when someone exits the game.
This is clearly unfair and should be corrected.
Due to this specification, players with higher rates will not want to match with players with lower rates.
It reduces the chances of players playing each other.• Apakah kesalahan peraturan dapat dilihat dari ulangan permainan? Jika ya, pada langkah ke berapa?
• Apa browser yang Anda gunakan?
Google Chrome v117
• Aksi permainan apa yang ingin Anda lakukan?
boardgamearena.com/table?table=429152889
As in the game above, if there is a difference in ELO rates between players, the rate of an unrelated player will decrease when someone exits the game.
This is clearly unfair and should be corrected.
Due to this specification, players with higher rates will not want to match with players with lower rates.
It reduces the chances of players playing each other.• Apa yang Anda coba lakukan untuk memunculkan aksi permainan ini?
• Apa yang terjadi ketika Anda melakukannya (pesan error, pesan status permainan, ...)?
• Apa browser yang Anda gunakan?
Google Chrome v117
• Pada langkah ke berapa masalah tersebut muncul (apa petunjuk permainan saat itu)?
boardgamearena.com/table?table=429152889
As in the game above, if there is a difference in ELO rates between players, the rate of an unrelated player will decrease when someone exits the game.
This is clearly unfair and should be corrected.
Due to this specification, players with higher rates will not want to match with players with lower rates.
It reduces the chances of players playing each other.• Apa yang terjadi ketika Anda mencoba untuk melakukan aksi permainan (pesan error, pesan status permainan, ...)?
• Apa browser yang Anda gunakan?
Google Chrome v117
• Mohon jelaskan masalah tampilannya. Jika Anda memiliki screenshot bug ini (disarankan), Anda dapat menggunakan Imgur.com untuk menguploadnya dan memberi tautannya di sini.
boardgamearena.com/table?table=429152889
As in the game above, if there is a difference in ELO rates between players, the rate of an unrelated player will decrease when someone exits the game.
This is clearly unfair and should be corrected.
Due to this specification, players with higher rates will not want to match with players with lower rates.
It reduces the chances of players playing each other.• Apa browser yang Anda gunakan?
Google Chrome v117
• Harap salin/tempel teks yang ditampilkan dalam bahasa Inggris alih-alih bahasa anda. Jika Anda memiliki screenshot bug ini (disarankan), Anda dapat menggunakan Imgur.com untuk menguploadnya dan memberi tautannya di sini.
boardgamearena.com/table?table=429152889
As in the game above, if there is a difference in ELO rates between players, the rate of an unrelated player will decrease when someone exits the game.
This is clearly unfair and should be corrected.
Due to this specification, players with higher rates will not want to match with players with lower rates.
It reduces the chances of players playing each other.• apakah teks ini tersedia dalam translation system? jika iya, itu bisa diartikan lebih dari 24 jam
• Apa browser yang Anda gunakan?
Google Chrome v117
• Tolong jelaskan saran Anda secara tepat dan ringkas sehingga semudah mungkin untuk memahami apa yang Anda maksud.
boardgamearena.com/table?table=429152889
As in the game above, if there is a difference in ELO rates between players, the rate of an unrelated player will decrease when someone exits the game.
This is clearly unfair and should be corrected.
Due to this specification, players with higher rates will not want to match with players with lower rates.
It reduces the chances of players playing each other.• Apa browser yang Anda gunakan?
Google Chrome v117
Laporkan riwayat
Agricola n°469154699
A player timed out during his/her last move of the game, was kicked and even therefore first place was shared between the rest of the players including myself. Because other players had lower ELO, I ended up losing points when I otherwise would have won the game and gained ELO.
See boardgamearena.com/bug?id=121841
(Link to discussion thread in the suggestion report)
So why not simply skip quiter turns if the game is at 90%+ progression? Or replace it with some dummy AI? Make it to never lost ELO/Arena Ranking on player drop?
The ideal solution would be to just consider it as everyone winning separate 2-player games against the person who left.
Someone suggested that already here: boardgamearena.com/bug?id=109466
In this game:
boardgamearena.com/table?table=528318388
I can now see a message in the "Details of ELO calculation" that says "You cannot lose ELO when a player quits the game".
If it's fixed for all games, that is a welcome change!
thanks for reporting the issue, we noticed there was indeed a bug where if the game was quit at 100% progression (which is unexpected but still possible, although it depends on each specific game implementation, according to how it has been developed), players could lose ELO when the rating update calculation was resulting in a negative delta (for ex when a strong player was tie with a weak player, as a result of game neuteralization). this delta would normally be set min to 0, but on 100% it wasn't happening.
the issue has now been fixed as of 28th aug 2024 (see changelog boardgamearena.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=188266#p188266).
sorry for the troubles and thank you for your patience!
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